I agree... the streaming of this video does suck ass. I can't get through watching 20 seconds of it without it going into a big long pause to buffer up again. Please post this on YouTube or some other video website that has tech people who know what they are doing.
My favourite option is longboard skateboarding. You can cruise easily at a fast speed and carry the board on a bus if you need to. (Easy to carry indoors, too.)
Nice to see people reclaiming the streets. How much fun would it be to travel on a street with dozens of cyclists, instead of gridlocked cars?
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I live in Oakland and use the bike boulevards in Berkeley regularly, and I think this video actually misrepresents the system to some degree. All of the boulevards run on neighborhood, side streets, and not on any major throughfares. Drivers who are not familiar with the city may be confused when trying to cut through a neighborhood, but if one just sticks to main streets none of the roadblocks will be encountered and there is no slowing of traffic. I was originally under the impression that the roadblocks were installed to just stop through traffic in these neighborhoods, and later the bike boulevards were established to take advantage of these already closed-off streets.
Additionally, the boulevards are mostly designed with specific destinations in mind, many of which are transit hubs. Most people I know use them to get to the BART subway stations, when taking trips to San Francisco or other outlying areas.
I agree that the zig-zag street they talk about in the video is a stupid idea, but I am not sure why they brought that up as that street is the only such implementation in the entire city, and it only lasts for about a quarter mile. Also, the intersection they talk about at Channing with the magnetic strip for bikes is the only such implementation as well, which has always confused me since there are several busier, more dangerous intersections in the area.
In my mind the boulevard markings are intended to impel bikers to use those streets more regularly, staying off of the main streets. The idea that car drivers will see the markings and give bikers more room is indeed faulty, as can be proven by some of the semi-psychotic comments below.
Your video streaming sucks Satan's Ass! Up here in Reddin', CA. cycling the streets is like playing Russian roulette. I'm a huge advocate for seperate 'barrier' bike lanes. I've heard that the city of Chicago is heading towards that direction. Though, I like some of the ideas in your video presentation, up here, I don't think we have the population density to implement them or the respectful conciousness which Berkley seems to exhibit, for people who use their bicycles as their main form of transportation, like me.
HI From Beijing!
This city was once a biking paradise, but its now a hell! IF you want to see how to take a bike city and turn it into a completely congested car city, come visit! I ride a motorcycle without a license on roads that don't allow motorcycles - its the only way to get around! Oh, and your video didnt load.
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Wow! You are sooo cool! I bet your mom's very proud! Make sure to share this great bit of news about yourself in your next holiday letter.
The little obstacles in the middle of the road scattered everywhere,
of all varying shapes sized and profiles are bad, of course. 50%
of bicyclist injuries are solo falls. It is likely surface conditions
and obstacle collision play a big role here. To scatter the
roadway with things that are associated with the
number one bicyclist injury cause amounts to negligence by
the designers and the city.
Every road is a 'bicycle boulevard' and it is bad public policy
ever to imply anything other than that.
The safety claims are false, of course. These bad designs are not
what makes it possible for bicyclists to be safe on roadways.
Logical conservative vehicle traffic rules and design - with
VERY high adherence to the most important/fundamental
aspects of that system - is what makes roadway bicycling safe.
Roads that pointlessly wiggle and waggle their lateral line
make the overtaking maneuver, bicyclist lateral positioning
choice and yield responsibilities (the definition of what is or is
not maintaining a straight track along the roadway) a mess
that is all but impossible to resolve well.
The cul-de-sac design concept - essentially turning huge
tracks of the public's transportation infrastructure into nothing
more than publicly subsidized shared driveway, is a concept
that should have a stake driven through its heart. It
should not be pandered to, even in a twisted form.
Connectivity is what good transportation design should value high.
However, for equity and sense it must be connectivity for all modes
the culture uses. Arterial design should be
de-emphasized. Hidden behind these poor 'bike-boulevard' and
'traffic diverting' ideas, is high speed arterial glorification. Perhaps
mass transit has enough extra bang for its buck and a specialized
route/usage pattern to make exceptions for mass transit - devoting
a corridor occasionally so that the only vehicle allowed on roadway
part of corridor are mass transit vehicles. Bicycling does not
deserve or warrant this experiment - though perhaps once the
mass transit-only corridors are developed, bicycling is enough
of a plus that they could be made mass-transit-and-bike only
roadways in that corridor.
The situation in the Netherlands is fairly different. Bikes have always been a part of the culture there, many bike lanes were not added after the city was built. Also the laws respecting bikes are strict and enforced. Hit a bicyclist who is obeying the law and you're in trouble.
Ottawa Ont Canada also has phenomenal bike trails all over the city; even outside of the downtown core. I've never seen a city as accommodating to bikers as Ottawa.
-The streaming on this site is just horrible. It's unnecessarily slow.
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You should realize that while you are only inconvenienced for a few seconds when a cyclist is in the road, the cyclist has made the effort and increased their commuting time to reduce traffic on the roads. Would you prefer that every biker you see just give up and get into a car and congest the streets even more? It's passive aggressive fucks like you that keep other people from getting out of their cars and onto a bike.
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ACtually, in NYC, they've just redesigned the a stretch of 9th ave between between 23rd and 14th street. As a biker, I now have a dedicated lane, with a physical barrier to the rest of traffic and I feel safer.
bad signs, bad roads , and just generally badly thought out concept.This is an immature implementation and amongst the worst i've ever seen.If they want to implement this kind of network , they should ask experts how to do it , and not think up system , just so they can say they did it.If they want to implement such a system there are plenty of countries (yes countries , not towns)where they could have taken proven examples from such as Holland & Germany.
What Berkly has come up is muddy soup of ill concept , and people will get hurt through this.
bad signs, bad roads , and just generally badly thought out concept.This is an immature implementation and amongst the worst i've ever seen.If they want to implement this kind of network , they should ask experts how to do it , and not think up system , just so they can say they did it.If they want to implement such a system there are plenty of countries (yes countries , not towns)where they could have taken proven examples from such as Holland & Germany.
What Berkly has come up is muddy soup of ill concept , and people will get hurt through this.
I've been living in berkeley for 5 years now. I drive on those streets all the time and i never knew until just now that those were \"bicycle streets\". If i'm driving there and i see a bicyclist there, i give them a hard time (drive close + fast to scare them). It will be confrontational, and no, they don't \"own the road\" like the video has you believe.
It is basically just well marked bike lanes. This may work in Berkely but it doesn't work most other places. For example, New York has a lot of well marked bike lanes but they are full of taxis, buses and irate drivers.
Bit of an afterthought. In Munich, Germany the roads were originally designed with cyclepaths in mind, therefore every road has a cycle path on each side running parrallel.
The laws here also mean that in the majority of cases the bigger is at fault; i.e. if a car hits the cyclist its the cars fault ... if a cyclist hits a pedestrian its the cyclists fault. This means cars are many time more aware of cyclists than most places I've lived (London! eek!).
Needless to say if you're being a d*** on your bike then it probably won't stand up in court! :)
we got seperated roads for bicycles at more and more locations here in Belgium if you want to see how its supposed to be check out Holland the dutch are kings in this but I love the way you guys try to implement it over there in Berkley great work
How much space is dedicated to cars? Parking, highways, city streets, junk yards, garages. How many cars only have one person in them? What is more dangerous, a car or a bike? This video shows how Berkeley calmed traffic and made itself a bike friendly city. I have ridden in Berkeley and it is great. You can get everywhere you need to on a bike without feeling like you are in danger. Hopefully, other cities will learn from this video and start making themselves more bike friendly.(more)(less)
I agree... the streaming of this video does suck ass. I can't get through watching 20 seconds of it without it going into a big long pause to buffer up again. Please post this on YouTube or some other video website that has tech people who know what they are doing.
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I expect completely stupid ideas like this to come out of Berzerkley. What a fucking joke bay area people are.
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don't know why it get 30 or so seconds into it and stops
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don't know why it get 30 or so seconds into it and stops
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Copenhagen's bike network is 1000% better than Berkley's. Maybe someone would like to do a video of bicycling in Denmark.
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Reply to #29: For analysis of another troubled intersection in the Berkeley BB network, see:
http://www.theworldedition.com/transportation/berkeley.php
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My favourite option is longboard skateboarding. You can cruise easily at a fast speed and carry the board on a bus if you need to. (Easy to carry indoors, too.)
Nice to see people reclaiming the streets. How much fun would it be to travel on a street with dozens of cyclists, instead of gridlocked cars?
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Reply to #22: I live in Oakland and use the bike boulevards in Berkeley regularly, and I think this video actually misrepresents the system to some degree. All of the boulevards run on neighborhood, side streets, and not on any major throughfares. Drivers who are not familiar with the city may be confused when trying to cut through a neighborhood, but if one just sticks to main streets none of the roadblocks will be encountered and there is no slowing of traffic. I was originally under the impression that the roadblocks were installed to just stop through traffic in these neighborhoods, and later the bike boulevards were established to take advantage of these already closed-off streets.
Additionally, the boulevards are mostly designed with specific destinations in mind, many of which are transit hubs. Most people I know use them to get to the BART subway stations, when taking trips to San Francisco or other outlying areas.
I agree that the zig-zag street they talk about in the video is a stupid idea, but I am not sure why they brought that up as that street is the only such implementation in the entire city, and it only lasts for about a quarter mile. Also, the intersection they talk about at Channing with the magnetic strip for bikes is the only such implementation as well, which has always confused me since there are several busier, more dangerous intersections in the area.
In my mind the boulevard markings are intended to impel bikers to use those streets more regularly, staying off of the main streets. The idea that car drivers will see the markings and give bikers more room is indeed faulty, as can be proven by some of the semi-psychotic comments below.
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Colorado is already very bike friendly, I guess they already zoned for these issues.
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That sign wouldn't mean shit. I'd still pass them at 50mph.
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Hey for many more great videos on bicycling and public space issues check out our StreetFilms website (we produced this video) at www.streetfilms.org
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Your video streaming sucks Satan's Ass! Up here in Reddin', CA. cycling the streets is like playing Russian roulette. I'm a huge advocate for seperate 'barrier' bike lanes. I've heard that the city of Chicago is heading towards that direction. Though, I like some of the ideas in your video presentation, up here, I don't think we have the population density to implement them or the respectful conciousness which Berkley seems to exhibit, for people who use their bicycles as their main form of transportation, like me.
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HI From Beijing!
This city was once a biking paradise, but its now a hell! IF you want to see how to take a bike city and turn it into a completely congested car city, come visit! I ride a motorcycle without a license on roads that don't allow motorcycles - its the only way to get around! Oh, and your video didnt load.
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Reply to #9: Wow! You are sooo cool! I bet your mom's very proud! Make sure to share this great bit of news about yourself in your next holiday letter.
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Poor design in oh so many ways.
The little obstacles in the middle of the road scattered everywhere,
of all varying shapes sized and profiles are bad, of course. 50%
of bicyclist injuries are solo falls. It is likely surface conditions
and obstacle collision play a big role here. To scatter the
roadway with things that are associated with the
number one bicyclist injury cause amounts to negligence by
the designers and the city.
Every road is a 'bicycle boulevard' and it is bad public policy
ever to imply anything other than that.
The safety claims are false, of course. These bad designs are not
what makes it possible for bicyclists to be safe on roadways.
Logical conservative vehicle traffic rules and design - with
VERY high adherence to the most important/fundamental
aspects of that system - is what makes roadway bicycling safe.
Roads that pointlessly wiggle and waggle their lateral line
make the overtaking maneuver, bicyclist lateral positioning
choice and yield responsibilities (the definition of what is or is
not maintaining a straight track along the roadway) a mess
that is all but impossible to resolve well.
The cul-de-sac design concept - essentially turning huge
tracks of the public's transportation infrastructure into nothing
more than publicly subsidized shared driveway, is a concept
that should have a stake driven through its heart. It
should not be pandered to, even in a twisted form.
Connectivity is what good transportation design should value high.
However, for equity and sense it must be connectivity for all modes
the culture uses. Arterial design should be
de-emphasized. Hidden behind these poor 'bike-boulevard' and
'traffic diverting' ideas, is high speed arterial glorification. Perhaps
mass transit has enough extra bang for its buck and a specialized
route/usage pattern to make exceptions for mass transit - devoting
a corridor occasionally so that the only vehicle allowed on roadway
part of corridor are mass transit vehicles. Bicycling does not
deserve or warrant this experiment - though perhaps once the
mass transit-only corridors are developed, bicycling is enough
of a plus that they could be made mass-transit-and-bike only
roadways in that corridor.
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The situation in the Netherlands is fairly different. Bikes have always been a part of the culture there, many bike lanes were not added after the city was built. Also the laws respecting bikes are strict and enforced. Hit a bicyclist who is obeying the law and you're in trouble.
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fucking hippies get a car, ill run u all over!
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fucking hippies get a car, ill run u all over!
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fucking hippies get a car, ill run u all over!
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fucking hippies get a car, ill run u all over!
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Ottawa Ont Canada also has phenomenal bike trails all over the city; even outside of the downtown core. I've never seen a city as accommodating to bikers as Ottawa.
-The streaming on this site is just horrible. It's unnecessarily slow.
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Reply to #9: You should realize that while you are only inconvenienced for a few seconds when a cyclist is in the road, the cyclist has made the effort and increased their commuting time to reduce traffic on the roads. Would you prefer that every biker you see just give up and get into a car and congest the streets even more? It's passive aggressive fucks like you that keep other people from getting out of their cars and onto a bike.
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Reply to #6: ACtually, in NYC, they've just redesigned the a stretch of 9th ave between between 23rd and 14th street. As a biker, I now have a dedicated lane, with a physical barrier to the rest of traffic and I feel safer.
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Portland has better city biking than this
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this is THE worst video stream ever, quality does not match the size at all, FIX IT!!!
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bad signs, bad roads , and just generally badly thought out concept.This is an immature implementation and amongst the worst i've ever seen.If they want to implement this kind of network , they should ask experts how to do it , and not think up system , just so they can say they did it.If they want to implement such a system there are plenty of countries (yes countries , not towns)where they could have taken proven examples from such as Holland & Germany.
What Berkly has come up is muddy soup of ill concept , and people will get hurt through this.
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bad signs, bad roads , and just generally badly thought out concept.This is an immature implementation and amongst the worst i've ever seen.If they want to implement this kind of network , they should ask experts how to do it , and not think up system , just so they can say they did it.If they want to implement such a system there are plenty of countries (yes countries , not towns)where they could have taken proven examples from such as Holland & Germany.
What Berkly has come up is muddy soup of ill concept , and people will get hurt through this.
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I've been living in berkeley for 5 years now. I drive on those streets all the time and i never knew until just now that those were \"bicycle streets\". If i'm driving there and i see a bicyclist there, i give them a hard time (drive close + fast to scare them). It will be confrontational, and no, they don't \"own the road\" like the video has you believe.
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Greetings from Paris!
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In Paris, biking is horrible!
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It is basically just well marked bike lanes. This may work in Berkely but it doesn't work most other places. For example, New York has a lot of well marked bike lanes but they are full of taxis, buses and irate drivers.
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Bit of an afterthought. In Munich, Germany the roads were originally designed with cyclepaths in mind, therefore every road has a cycle path on each side running parrallel.
The laws here also mean that in the majority of cases the bigger is at fault; i.e. if a car hits the cyclist its the cars fault ... if a cyclist hits a pedestrian its the cyclists fault. This means cars are many time more aware of cyclists than most places I've lived (London! eek!).
Needless to say if you're being a d*** on your bike then it probably won't stand up in court! :)
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we got seperated roads for bicycles at more and more locations here in Belgium if you want to see how its supposed to be check out Holland the dutch are kings in this but I love the way you guys try to implement it over there in Berkley great work
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Great idea!
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